tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10976271.post2295206214752758419..comments2023-09-11T10:03:56.103-04:00Comments on Foreign Prophecies: Hady Mirza as Asian Idol? Let’s reveal the inconvenient truth behind the result.toshihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03100158343215842935noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10976271.post-76250164306292136192007-12-17T11:06:00.000-05:002007-12-17T11:06:00.000-05:00Seriously, I'm a singaporean and I don't even know...Seriously, I'm a singaporean and I don't even know there's this Asian Idol contest going on til I read about it in the papers.Administratorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12773070369684327430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10976271.post-87163446421769889372007-12-17T09:59:00.000-05:002007-12-17T09:59:00.000-05:00@cardova: yes, I just found an explanation like yo...@cardova: yes, I just found an explanation like yours just now... It really is the 2nd vote that truly counts. We should make it a point for the next Asian Idol.<BR/><BR/>@zippy_applelips: Singaporeans are cheapskate? I think that's a bit overgeneralised, though my argument is too, haha.. (I lived in Singapore for 2 yrs, that's how I become knowledgeable enough abt your country). anyway thanks ^^<BR/>can i see your blog too? <BR/><BR/>@dita: yep, your first paragraph quite sums up my whole point. That's how I came to vote 3 smses for 3 different countries: Indo-Phil, Indo-Viet, Indo-Sin. Now that it turns out like this, I kinda regret voting for Singapore though, haha..toshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03100158343215842935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10976271.post-11705831486139744682007-12-17T08:16:00.000-05:002007-12-17T08:16:00.000-05:00On retrospect, the best way to strategically vote ...On retrospect, the best way to strategically vote your countryman is to vote five times for your countryman, each times paired with a different country. And only those five votes are required, a mere 10 ribu rupiah, no need to transfer a whole wad of cash to the coffers of Fremantle and its partners.<BR/><BR/>Unless the number of votes is calculated against the general population of the country, in which case India and Indonesia are doomed because we need to vote more than the other countries to get a good percentage.<BR/><BR/>In any case I didn't and wouldn't vote. XDDitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09019643328089540995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10976271.post-64580843729886716972007-12-17T07:53:00.000-05:002007-12-17T07:53:00.000-05:00Alright first of all, I doubt that "The winner was...Alright first of all, I doubt that "The winner was determined through 50% viewers' votes and 50% judges' scores" because if that was the case, the organisers would have made it a point to at least inform the viewers. No such information was given except to "Vote for your 2 favourites", so the viewers would be unaware of the judges' hands in this, and organisers wouldn't want to risk a huge-ass scandal that would possibly erupt from this. Besides, with a judge from each country, it will be difficult to choose a majority vote from them without some conflict, which, I am sure the organisers would want to avoid, thus justifying my argument that the outcome was 100% the responsibility of the voting public only.<BR/>A few things about your blog entry;<BR/><BR/>"Singaporeans are relatively richer than the rest of the contestants' countries."<BR/><BR/>I laughed when I read this. Firstly, most of us Singaporeans are cheapskates. Secondly, I am willing to bet that with a society as fast-paced as ours, a good percentage of our population wouldn't have bothered to stay in-the-know about a show like Asian Idol, let alone be bothered to vote. So our country's GDP has absolutely nothing to do with why Hady won.<BR/><BR/>"Hady is seen as a “harmless opponent” by the voters from non-Singaporean countries, thus he is likely to gain a whole load of “unintentional” votes by those who knew how the voting percentage worked."<BR/><BR/>I accept your argument that Hady gained "unintentional" votes and your explanation is the most intelligent one I've read so far compared to the grammatically incorrect ones I find on YouTube. Therefore it is surprising that people like that have logic like yours when it comes to voting. However, if people voted as such, didn't they think that perhaps the tally would eventually increase, thus putting their own choice in jeopardy? <BR/><BR/>I apologize for that essay. You write (or type) very well. I will make it a point to visit your blog more often.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10976271.post-81557563942284392862007-12-17T06:41:00.000-05:002007-12-17T06:41:00.000-05:00"What seems weird to me is the uncanny fact that e..."What seems weird to me is the uncanny fact that even if each and every Singapore citizens vote ten times for Hady Mirza, it would be counted as 40 million votes. While on the other hand, if s mere 5% of the Indian population voted once for Abhijeet Sawant, it would be counted as 50 million votes, which is still a lot bunch more than the Singaporean votes."<BR/><BR/>The answer to this conundrum is there in the wikipedia article you quoted (sourced from asian idol FAQ page). Because each country's total vote is converted to a percentage, each country has equal weightage no matter the population. Add to this the fact that each person has to make two choices. To use your example, say the 50 million people in India all vote for abijit as 1st choice, and all 40 million votes from singapore has hady as 1st choice. Its still counted as 50% abijit from india, 50% hady from singapore. Even if only one person in Singapore voted, and voted for hady as 1st choice, it'll still be registered as a 50% count. Home votes don't matter. Assuming all fans are loyal n voted for their respective idols in their home countries, the idols are still split 1 in 6.<BR/><BR/>Its the second vote that truly counts. What this means of course is that hady must have picked up a fair percentage of the 'other' 50% in each country, excluding his own (singapore). Whether he did this because he truly appealed across asia, or because people thought he's a safe bet to ensure their own idols' victory (quite pathetic way to win really), i leave it up to you.belegosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08785776569932081352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10976271.post-9026616948877722232007-12-16T22:05:00.000-05:002007-12-16T22:05:00.000-05:00Well.. They choose Hady because at this moment, Ta...Well.. They choose Hady because at this moment, Taufik is busy promoting his album in Malaysia hence he is not able to commit. <BR/><BR/>Futhermore, i think they believe that Hady needs the exposure more than Taufik who is like so popular in Singapore and already build his name in Malaysia.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08263441579444617723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10976271.post-60738684715822049282007-12-16T21:58:00.000-05:002007-12-16T21:58:00.000-05:00anyway, the 0.20 was my mistake. I got the wrong s...anyway, the 0.20 was my mistake. I got the wrong source of information :P<BR/><BR/>I've corrected it.toshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03100158343215842935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10976271.post-84267912063202660452007-12-16T21:52:00.000-05:002007-12-16T21:52:00.000-05:00Well they're relatively richer than their neighbou...Well they're relatively richer than their neighbouring countries, right? Yes, I know how a lot of Singaporeans are actually expecting contestants of other countries to win...<BR/><BR/>Anyway, can you shed some light on why Hady was chosen over Taufik? I didn't get to know the whole story... Sawant was chosen despite he's the first Indian Idol, so why didn't Singapore pick its first Idol too?toshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03100158343215842935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10976271.post-18280242364136587242007-12-16T21:43:00.000-05:002007-12-16T21:43:00.000-05:00dude.. not all singaporeans are "rich" or well to ...dude.. not all singaporeans are "rich" or well to do.. big misconeption.. and well Asian Idol voting sms cost $0.60 .each not $0.20 .<BR/><BR/>I do agree however on the voting numbers theory. I gave that explanation to my shocked aunt as they announced the winner.. As much as a singaporean heart I have.. I was also expecting Mike to grab it .. or Mau..Imperfect Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16138494814413398970noreply@blogger.com